using scratchs new face sensing extension i made a 3d head model thingymabob it tells you -the head x and y -top of head -bottom of head -back of head -front of head -NOT the left or right sides of the head, because that's what ears are for -face size ratio (just face size / 100) -and all the other facial features all in a neat variable for each one sort of supports rotation (kinda inaccurate, but it works)