Before scrolling, most info is just general or common in idol groups, but some might sound biased!! I'm not hating on any idol or saying hate is acceptable or justifying it, only explaining why it happens + u cant hate on me for my opinions, u can disagree openly but be respectful. 1. (ggs) stop bringing "Double standards" into everything. Like I noticed this is esp with gg fans, when a female idol is hated for something they'd say "well he did the same & no one hates him for it" which is usually not true. Female idols can get hated on specific stuff more than male idols do, yes sometimes it has something to do with gender & I'll be direct, tbh there are alot of things that guys can do but girls shouldnt, & there's also alot of stuff girls can do but guys will get hated for, & also girl groups do some things that boy groups don't even do, so if guys dont do it then they wont get hated for it, isn't that common sense??? why do some still like to say "oh the double standards in kpop" when sometimes its the idols or groups themselves that bring the hate by doing things that arent accepted in k-pop & sometimes it's just because fans see some things they dont like & choose to hate on it. It has nothing to do with double standards/gender. also for the "aegyo" stuff (mostly wonyoung no hate), its because sometimes female idols take it more seriously and act cute without cringing afterwards which is ofc a dumb reason to hate them for it, but it IS the reason people say they try "too hard" not bc they're girls, while male idols USUALLY cringe after bc they cant take it seriously, it has nothing to do with the fact they are guys that they dont get hate. Jake got hated for doing it too?? as u see it's got NOTHING to do with gender stop bringing it into everything. 2. (ggs) Using the facts they are adults as an excuse for everything. first of all, less cl0thes doesn't = confident/ mature/ empowering women, since when does being almost n4k3d mean you're confident? why does confidence or being fearless mean you need to show all that skin??? Is confidence all about the clothes you wear now? well that's d2mb & sad, also maturity doesn't require wearing that. Them being adults doesn't mean they can do whatever they want without getting hate, idols aren't the innocent babies you see them as, if an idol will do something they CHOSE to do, they should know the consequences, & their stans should stop accepting everything they do. Being an adult doesnt mean u should be h4lf n4k3d bc you've "matured" ik idols are people too, but anyone famous with a huge fanbase should know that they will get hate for their actions. K-pop idols arent like western celebs, there are many things that idols shouldn't do for their idol image. If idols shouldn't curse, then why should they show up wearing u*derw34r, tw3rking, doing v2lg4r actions, or joining a str1*ping show. K-pop idols have strict rules, some make no sense, but some are for their own image & so they dont get hate. If they want to do something wrong, they'll get hate. fans should be more mature & realize sometimes idols themselves ruin their own image. Age doesnt mean that everything they do should be accepted, ofc they can do what they want who's gonna stop them? but if they choose to do something wrong, the fact they are adults making a decision isn't the justification to actually doing something that's wrong or isn't acceptable. they CAN do what they want, but they CANT control everyone around them. 3. (ggs & bgs) Blaming companies. companies can control the hate idols get by taking legal action & when they can then they should. But there are so many things they can't control. The massive hate idols get sometimes doesn't mean the company needs to "protect their idols more", literally all idols get hate & it's not easy to actually deal with all of it. it's not always the company's fault. Also when idols make a decision, remember that they aren't being babysit by their companies 24/7, they also make their own decisions and can actually choose whether to follow what the companies tell them not to do or if they want to do whatev they want even when they aren't advised to do so. 4. (mostly bgs) Being overly possesive of your bias. Some stans literally get jealous when others share the same bias as them, and if yk the jokes that some kpop fans do like saying their bias is their husband or that they're married and such. You should know that these people usually aren't serious, and if someone jokes like that, some fans should know that they aren't fighting with u, its a common joke to say "He's mine" "Back off", some literally fight when someone says that to them. Ik it can be annoying, but there's no need to start WW3 over a bias. Let people joke around the way they want to, u need to know that u dont own your bias & cant control everyone when they just want to joke around with u.
Here's 2 more, these r mostly dedicated to skz: | V 5. (mostly bgs) Shipping idols romantically is weird. WDYM THEY R IN LOVE?? bc they make eye-contact?? bc they care about eachother? cuz they smile or joke with eachother?? It makes no sense. alot of k-pop fans ship idols together, for the dmbest reasons EVER, y'all are forgetting this is real life and they are real people being REAL, they aren't acting in a k-drama!! they see eachother 24/7 and y'all can't let them sit together without making edits of the 3 seconds of eye-contact they make & captioning it with nonsense, or even saying other members are jealous. Do you not smile at your friends?!? IMAGINE having a close friend & people start saying y'all are gay for eachother & millions started shipping you & even creating delusional stuff of you. "it's okay, they're friends so they won't mind" IS NOT AN EXCUSE? If I drew you kissing ur bsf sh1rtless, do you think that's okay? If I made fanfics of you doing inappropriate stuff with your friend, how would u feel? If I created edits & fought with people to prove you are in love with someone you consider a brother/sister, would you just consider me a random person and move on? Would I be equal to any other, or would u get uncomfortable whenever you see me?? Also don't forget skz called eachother brothers & family SO MANY TIMES, now ofc some will say it's an excuse, but do they know skz better than skz know themselves???? Imagine idols knew of ALL the things u make of them, would u be FANS to them? Do u think you should be proud to read those fanfics of people u support?? Is it right to draw people u care about in positions they don't want to be in?!? Also if idols are forced to sit together in an event, people still believe they are d4ting?? Some just notice a member zoning out and caption it with "look how jealous s/he looks"?!? Be realistic. You can't assume any 2 close friends are in love. MANY friends talk like that, in fact, i'm pretty sure most people called their friends "honey/sweetheart" at least once, if you can do so, idols can too. Alot of fans love it when Idols act like themselves on camera right? & praise them for "being themselves" but this is what happens when they do? their own fans start twisting their jokes into something like that??? Yk the worst partt?? the same people that make those ship edits, "jealousy" & "proof they are dating" edits, fanfics, shipping fanart, comment on their vlogs/lives about the ships, will also be the ones complaining when staff separate the idols because of the nasty rumors, well what'd u expect? you're ruining their reputation and making other fans & even people that AREN'T apart of the fandom believe that these idols are dating, you can't blame the staff for making sure they sit apart, because if the rumors weren't made, they could actually be themselves. It's only your fault when that happens, also I'm sure the staff don't want idols to be constantly shipped for just being seated next to eachother. It's okay to think it's true, that's not the problem, but spreading it around, trying to prove it, making that type of stuff, when you are most likely wrong, or even faking stuff that never happened is so st2p1d (I literallly saw an edited pic with fake captions & it's absolutely disgusting, more than 100 commenters believed it). This isn't just about skz, it's for all idols. They aren't your made-up story, these are some living human beings, and you shouldn't decide whom they like and what they feel, it's disrespectful & disgusting. Those edits, fanfics, fanart, fake stories, etc are making people so delusional that they forget that stuff is just made up & never happened. Also do you see how yeji x hyunjin, is not accepted? whenever they are shipped for 1 second, everyone hates it, but when hyunlix shippers do their thing, everyone's okay with it. WHY??? Okay sorry that was too long ehem 6. (ggs & bgs) Stop comparing groups together Different K-pop groups have different concepts, & different fandoms. Bc you don't like a group, doesn't mean others can't like it. You can't say "_ is better than _" because that's just your own opinion, because a group is more successful than another, it doesn't mean they're "better" or "deserve it more". some groups work harder and gain less. But If a group is more successful, then it's for a reason, their fans like their songs?? But there's no need to tell other fandoms that they're better than the group they stan. it's completely based on opinions. & about the "best 4th gen", as a skz stan I believe it's skz, but txt stans will obviously think otherwise, & tbh some of txt's songs are amazing. There's no need argue, it changes nothing, don't forget that if you're hating on txt/skz, they're friends & you'd be simply hating on a group for no reason.